Saturday, September 17, 2011

Adding Insult to Injury.

Not a great day to be a TCU fan. Following up the most hollow three TD victory of all time comes the news that Syracuse and Pitt have officially applied for membership in the ACC. The ACC confirms this and also confirms that 8 other teams have been in contact with the Conference. By all accounts, Syracuse and Pitt leaving is a done deal.

This Conference expansion BS is going to continue unabated until the coming of the super conferences it would appear, but what does this latest news mean for us? Considering ESPN has been running direct quotes from CDC on the ticker where he expresses that he is "worried about the future of the Big East," it doesn't sound good. However, here are all of the rumors that are circling around:

  • Baylor and Iowa State have reached out to the Big East in the event that the Big 12 implodes. We laugh and scoff, but sadly, if Cuse and Pitt leave, the BE won't exactly be operating from a position of strength. It's not ideal, but if it holds things together we may have to, although it would seem like you'd try and rope in the Kansas schools as well. Missouri remains a wild card but they will likely have SEC or Big Ten options.
  • It has long been rumored that Texas would consider going to the ACC because joining that Conference would allow them to keep the LHN, but the latest I heard is that the ACC does NOT want Tetch. So now the Horns are back to the drawing board. Pac 12 is likely an option but would they want the Raiders? And considering the LHN is the root cause of all of this current bullshit, would Texas swallow their pride and undercut their own sweetheart deal? Doubtful, but desperate times require desperate measures.
  • The Big 12 is considering going on the offensive to keep OU and OSU and wants to bump back to 12 teams by adding 3. Three names that have been tossed out in all seriousness are BYU, Louisville and TCU. I'm skeptical, and I do not want to go to the Bevo 12, but if the Big East goes to hell, we would have to consider all options, including this one. But that is assuming it would be on the table which, again, I don't see it. Then again, if all of this keeps spinning out of control the Big 12 will need to present the networks with the most attractive possible product. If it's between us, SMU and/or Houston... you be the judge.
  • I have also heard that the ACC is interested in Rutgers and that WVU could be an SEC expansion candidate. I would have to think the ACC would be interested as well.
Not exactly the news we all want to hear right now, but this shit is going to get a lot worse before it ever gets better. Let's just hope CDC isn't in over his head. I picture him sitting in his office, a cigarette burned down between those spray tanned fingers with a phone in each ear. But he's more than likely in his personal bomb shelter, hugging his knees and sobbing silently. or maybe that's just me.


Reed said...

As great of the Big East sounded, TCU has not had a home for nearly 20 years and we will survive with our without it. Last year was a dream come true for TCU and we have plently to look forward to. As CDC said as long as we keep winning we "should" be fine The current state and future of the NCAA is starting to really turn me off.

Its insane that the state of Texas is home to such rich college football tradition and resources and only 1 school (aggy) seems to have any AQ conference security That is so fucked up.

EdK said...

Has TCU actually climbed so high up the mountain that the possibility of joining the Big 8-12-9-12-14 has become such a bad thing?

Personally, I hate the Big 12. But I sure don't want TCU to join the Big East and wind up holding nothing but it's scaly, brown you-know-what in its hand.

spoiledguineafrog said...
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spoiledguineafrog said...

this article is extremely depressing. i felt nervous the entire time, so thanks for that!

to be completely honest, i never thought the big east sounded great. i appreciated the pros, but i think it's an easy conference and once again, the travel to away games is a killer. I would love for games to be regional so I can go to every one. kind of the same deal as a little school in fort worth that is 5A and playing teams like abilene cooper when they should be playing that other high school down the highway.

i hate the big 12, and every team in it, but i would drive to waco, college station and stillwater every weekend to watch the frogs give em hell. this isn't the 80s and 90s - TCU is a completely different school. we can hang. our rivalries go way back and i'm open to the idea of resurrecting them. its much more appealing to go to lubbock and hate than laramie or morgantown (scary)

on the flipside, i'm with Reed on the future of ncaa. but ill try to remain calm and stay focused on the theory that everything happens for a reason

EdK said...

I saw someone post this suggestion on Yahoo! (and I love it): What are the chances TCU gets invited to the SEC now that A&M is going?

I mean, seriously, wouldn't that be a mind-blower? And, right now, it actually isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.

Travis said...

I won't retread what good points you all have alreayd made because I share your exact thoughts and concerns. I too have never really been sold on the BE thing, except of course the auto BCS bid. That is the only real reason we made this move, and we all know it. It wasn't the "fun" travel East instead of West, academics, baskeball, or better football competition. This is getting old. Does anyone else think ESPN has a large, hidden hand in all this realignment talk?

I have read quotes form Cuse and Pitt fans, and they are not happy about this move. What a shame to lose all their rivalries. The Big East was the premier basketball conference, the ACC was simply Duke and NC, forget the 80's and 90's image of top to bottom good. I was excited about the future of our hoops, which should continue to be a focus regardless of where we land.

Edk: The SEC is not a far fetched idea. I realize that moves are not necessarily made because of fans, alumi or boosters desires, see previous point. However, those groups are making big mention of TCU. A&M gets a travel partner, they get DFW and more TX recruiting, plus they love baseball like we do in the state of Texas. I don't think WVU is their first choice. SEC could use the boost in academic image, which TCU brings. I know, that is not driving this bus, by it is a plus one in the pros column as they evaluate partners. Also, the SEC understands something that many conferences such as the Big 12(10,9) do not. It is not necessarily about market size or school size. It's about the quality of play on the field, which TCU delivers. TV viewers around the country want to watch good matchups. That is why the SEC is so successful. I tune into most of their games, especially if my choice is watching an average ACC or Big Ten game. Hell, visiting SEC fans could actually score a fair amount of tickets to games at the Carter because we are a small alumni base and 43,000 seats are not the easiest to fill. That is not me insulting us, it's just a reality. Not saying they would have 15,000 fans, we have been holding our own.

Sorry, I am rambling. It was a sickening day yesterday and if CDC has publicly made those comments, then we all should be concerned. This guy is in the know.

Beau Ellenbecker said...

Not a big poster here but I read alot. The conference mixup is a headache for TCU and not much better for Texas Tech, Louisville, and Cincy.

I see the Big East Collapsing and everyone else lumps together. I don't see any conference agreeing to the Long Horn Network.

What I think could actually happen:

Rutgers and UCONN to ACC.

Missouri, West Virgina, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech to the SEC.

Okie, Okie State, Baylor, and TCU to the PAC.

Cincy, Louisville, Kansas, and Kansas State to the the Big 10

Rotten Arsenal said...

The Pac won't take Baylor (or TCU) because it's already been made clear that at least one current PAC member (I think it's Cal) will block the entry of any religious oriented private school.

I can't see Texas Tech being all that attractive to the SEC. Can't say the SEC would rather have us over Tech, but Tech doesn't bring much to the table. TCU at least brings the Metroplex and if you are talking about traveling fans, I would imagine that a weekend in DFW would be far more interesting than Lubbock (and easier travel since it's closer to every other SEC school and has a major airport... I think you'd actually have to connect and change planes at DFW just to get to Lubbock). Tech's stadium may be bigger, but seriously... it's Lubbock. And Tech doesn't help the SEC academic identity either.

Rotten Arsenal said...

It occurs to me that we're becoming a harbinger of doom... ever since the SWC, pretty much every league we've joined has had some cataclysmic change within about 5 years, usually involving a bunch of other schools leaving. This is quick even by our standards.

Sir Wesley Willis said...

Supposedly this move has a 27 month notification window, although that is likely negotiable. This also doesn't matter TOO much until 16 team Conferences happen, which it seems no one wants to be the first to start those dominoes falling. Who knows. I don't even like football anymore anyway.