Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Tommy Tuberville, The Only Honest Man in Lubbock.

Ears. He's Got 'Em.

For those of you who have not been following, Big 12-2 Meedja Days are going on this week in Dallas. You may have missed it in-between Mack Brown trying to somehow smoke screen everyone into thinking the Longhorn Network could actually be a disadvantage for the Horns and Robert Griffin launching his Heisman Campaign..

Sorry, I was laughing too hard and had to take a break.

But anyway - in between that, Tommy Tuberville said exactly what everyone outside of Lubbock, Texas knew to be true but would never admit. The actual context of what he said is somewhat under dispute, so I will post verbatim what I have seen to be the most accurate depiction:

- "...But the thing about it is we had four nonconference teams scheduled. And because the new conference realignment, one had to go."

-"That's really probably not the type of team we want to play right now. Not that we didn't want to play them. It was obvious that we had somebody had to go in that slot where they were at, you know, pretty much fit what we needed to do.'

- "If they had been in another slot maybe in one of the other non-conference positions, we would have still been playing that game. But somebody had to go. And, again, hopefully we can play -- I think that's a natural game for us. I think we need to play that game. I think it needs to be a home and home game, and I think that it would help both Gary and us to play each year."
Now, I've seen probably 3-4 different takes on this story and each one deconstructs the quote to their liking in order to meet their ends, including Mac Engel who asked the question that prompted the response in the first place. But, all the same, the sentence I bolded above is common to all of them and sticks out above all the rest.

Of course, Tech fans are completely up in arms about this and twisting the meaning of the printed word to make it seem like Tuberville REALLY meant to say they only dropped us because of scheduling. Which is partially true... until you go back and read his DIRECT QUOTE of "THAT'S REALLY PROBABLY NOT THE TYPE OF TEAM WE WANT TO PLAY RIGHT NOW" and it kind of kicks all of those arguments out the window. If he really wanted to keep us on the schedule, he would've tried much harder to make it work.

The whole Tech/TCU scheduling SNAFU of the past two years has created more of a rivalry between our two fan bases than any actual game ever could, and if we choose to have any of their ilk in our lives and choose to coexist with them, we will simply have to agree to disagree. Just a few minutes ago I became indirectly embroiled in an internet cat fight with a Tech fan who I am unfamiliar with, and to take what he said and completely overgeneralize that his attitude reflects that of every Tech fan alive, here is what happened. Basically, his three "shots" at TCU were as follows:

  1. Tech had better attendance than TCU did last year, even though Tech had a down year and TCU had their "best season ever." Therefore, Tech is better.
  2. TCU are bitches because they "backed down" from a rematch with Wisconsin.
  3. TCU torpedoed the game last year because we were afraid to play Oregon State AND Tech in the same season.
My reponses...

1. You're comparing a school with, what, 40000 students at least to a school with 8000 when it comes to attendance? Our stadiums are not comparable in size, with Tech being maybe 10000 bigger, so we will clearly never bridge that gap even if we sell out every game. That's logic. We averaged over 40,000 per game last year... which is about the same number of living alumni the school has. So, I'd say that's pretty positive thing. I realize you're solely citing the 2006 game where Tech fans outnumbered ours 2:1, but things have changed pretty significantly since then. It would be a much, much different story if you guys would come back and play us. And for my money the biggest overall difference is Tech has a natural fan base that covers pretty much everything west of FW, TCU is stuck in UT/aggy/Tech/OU territory which makes it difficult to draw casual fans. We finally bridged that gap last year and I don't see why it would change. Season tickets have reached record numbers the past few years and when our new stadium opens I'd expect few empty seats. And if we're mocking "greatest season ever" I'll take our Rose Bowl year over Tech's 11-2 Cotton Bowl loss to Ole Miss ye

2. Because our dicks are bigger than theirs since we beat them head to head. They wanted a one off game in Madison without a return. The loser does not get to dictate the terms. And with what we've accomplished under Patterson, we're at the level that we do not need to play one off games. OU is giving us a return game. LSU is giving us a return game. Arkansas is giving us a return game. The only team that hasn't done that in recent memory is Texas, and I don't think we'd settle for that ever again, nor would they ask us to be on their schedule. Same reason you guys use for skipping the game this year, according to your info below.

3. This argument is completely he said/she said and we're going to disagree until the end of time. SO let's do this chronologically

Nov 11, 2009 - tech site announces the schedule, leaving off TCU http://www.texastech.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111109aab.html

December 15, 2009 - Oregon paper rumoring the game... so it had not been settled quite yet. That's a month later and there was no contract. http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=126088489493742500

So, at best, Tech got a chance to move the UT game to national television and TCU had the chance to play a national game at Jerry World and both teams agreed to drop the game. At worst, Tech back out and TCU filled the hole with ESPN's help as they had been the ones to cause the game to be cancelled in the first place. I suppose we will agree to disagree on this one.

So I like to think I handled myself with dignity there, no? But seriously, this argument is so worthless because neither side is ever going to admit that the other was in the right. Tuberville tried to cover his tracks a little, and I am sure if he could go back he would completely reword his response. But that's the thing - he DID say it. And when you consider that Tommy comes from the vaunted SEC school of out of conference scheduling, he's a natural fit in Lubbock where they share similar ideas on out of conference play. I'm not suggesting that TCU doesn't toss in a few cupcakes now and then, but the last time Tech actually took a chance out of Conference was when they played us... in 2006. In the 5 years since, they played or will play: SMU and New Mexico thrice, Rice, Nevada, Houston and New Mexico Twice, and then a smattering of UTEP, Northwestern State, Eastern Washington, UMASS, North Dakota, Weber State, Texas State. That's 0 BCS teams, two, at the time they played them, bottom feeding CUSA teams, Non-Boise destroying Nevada teams, the worst MWC team and perhaps worst college football team in the nation and seis Division II schools. The only game they lost was against Houston, but you'll recall that Houston came on a LOT stronger that year than anyone expected. So I'm doubting Tech scheduled Cougar High as a challenge. Not exactly a murderers row of non-con scheduling. So the fact that they say WE were scared is kind of laughable, especially when you consider that, in that same time frame, we have played 10 of those teams and beaten all but 2 of them.

If Tuberville means it, I really hope he does push for a regular series with the Frogs a couple of times a decade. I mean, he won't do it, but it'd be nice if he did. But until then, let the Techies have their fun and toot the horn of being in a Conference they've never won. Meantime, we'll fondle our Conference and Bowl rings and look forward to our upcoming decade of dominance in the East Coast spotlight. Guns up.


Sir Wesley Willis said...

sorry for the format fail - cutting/pasting from other sources mind F's blogger.

shortnkerley's said...

Tubs wont be in Lubbock long enough to see the day when TCU plays them. If he actually does his job and makes a difference, he'll be on the first bus outta town when a real school comes calling. Or maybe their brilliant admin will run him out for being way better than he should be, like Leach.

And that guy sounds like a fucking moron, but what do you expect for a Tech fan? It's the equivalent of a middle school education.

NurseFrog31 said...

Guns up, grades down...

Sir Wesley Willis said...

For those Tech fans trying to frame it as a scheduling SNAFU -

Sept. 17 - TCU vs ULM
Sept. 17 - Tech @ UNM

Sept. 24 - TCU vs PSU
Sept. 24 - Tech vs. Nevada.

You're telling me neither of those games could be wiped out for TCU?